(21:59:15) WernerDworak: Hello everyone, (21:59:33) reinhard: hi all (21:59:33) WernerDworak: please change your nich to you real name (21:59:39) ***JanDittberner is already back home from chemnitz (21:59:55) law heißt jetzt MarioLipinski (22:00:01) TomasTrnka: Please everybody join #vote, too (22:00:35) NEOatNHNG heißt jetzt MichaelTaenzer (22:00:56) BenediktHeintel heißt jetzt BHeintel (22:00:56) UlrichSchroeter: usage and infos about votebot -> https://wiki.cacert.org/AGM/vote (22:01:00) BHeintel heißt jetzt BenediktHeintel (22:01:14) reinhard: danke ulli (22:01:19) UlrichSchroeter: yw :) (22:01:32) INOPIAE_ heißt jetzt MarcusMaengel (22:02:27) WernerDworak: Shall we start the meeting or wait? I someone missing? (22:03:07) reinhard: hi, have probs to change my name to ReinhardMutz (22:03:27) UlrichSchroeter: slash nick (zusammen) ... then your name ,-) (22:03:32) WernerDworak: Reinhard, bad but never mind (22:03:41) MartinGummi: hi reinhard use /nick ReinhardMutz (22:03:54) reinhard heißt jetzt ReinhardMutz (22:03:58) ReinhardMutz: thx (22:04:06) dirk heißt jetzt dirkastrath (22:04:52) WernerDworak: So I open the Special General meeting of today (22:05:23) WernerDworak: The only topic is the new financial report. (22:05:37) WernerDworak: Who will do the minutes? (22:06:50) rats_ heißt jetzt BenediktHeintel (22:07:14) TomasTrnka: We can IMHO skip this, noone will remember in half a year anyways (22:07:39) UlrichSchroeter: wrong .... minutes have to be available in next AGM ! (22:07:45) WernerDworak: I Take a protocol anyway (22:07:51) MichaelTaenzer: ;-) right, that's why we keep minutes (22:08:17) WernerDworak: Ok, then I do the minutes (22:08:53) GuillaumeRomagny: (just keep a record of the current IRC session) (22:08:54) WernerDworak: Michael, can you please explain why this sgm is neede? (22:09:28) MichaelTaenzer: I'll try (22:10:08) MichaelTaenzer: In the last AGM we thought that the previous financial report was not detailed enoough but was correct (22:11:18) MichaelTaenzer: when I took over I figured out that it was not, because there were some mistakes in how the report was done (22:11:22) UlrichSchroeter: bad that there is no AGM minutes .. but in short: motion was: "That the updated financial report is delivered within 6 weeks as requested." Aye 18, Naye 3, Abstain 1 (22:12:02) MichaelTaenzer: For example it missed some asset accounts (22:13:01) MichaelTaenzer: As the fixed report is not only a detailed version of the previous report I figured we will have to explicitly accept the new version (22:13:01) rats_ heißt jetzt BenediktHeintel1 (22:14:07) MichaelTaenzer: I talked to Jeffery about the changes and I am confident that the updated report is correct (22:14:18) WernerDworak: Can ypu please repeat the link to the financial report (22:14:32) TomasTrnka: The detailed version is at https://wiki.cacert.org/SGM/Next (22:15:02) TomasTrnka: PDF files approved by Board: https://nocert.svn.cacert.org/CAcert/CAcert_Inc/General_Meetings/SGM-20130317/ (22:16:59) WernerDworak: Has someone objections or questions to Michaels report? (22:20:09) MarcusMaengel: Thanks Michael for your work. (22:20:12) WytzevanderRaay: Instead of objections I would like to express my thanks to Michael for picking up the AGM's wishes to diligently, and produce a good financial report for us. (22:20:28) MarcusMaengel: It looks understandable now. (22:20:29) rats_ heißt jetzt BenediktHeintel (22:20:46) JanDittberner: thanks Michael (22:20:46) GuillaumeRomagny: I second WytzevanderRaay (22:20:51) BenediktHeintel: I have a feeling for the figures (22:20:53) UlrichSchroeter: also to thank Michael for a full recovery back from 2011 (22:20:56) WernerDworak: Indeed, Michael did a really good work (22:21:03) GuillaumeRomagny: (btw, we have the quorum to open the SGM) (22:21:23) MartinGummi: thanks Michael (22:22:18) MichaelTaenzer: You're welcome (22:23:10) WernerDworak: Is some discussion needed or can we come to the voting now? (22:23:37) TomasTrnka: GuillaumeRomagny: Err, what? The quorum is five members and we have that from the start (22:24:03) GuillaumeRomagny: TomasTrnka : yes but we have to write it down. (22:24:50) TomasTrnka: GuillaumeRomagny: ok then (22:25:37) BrianMcCullough: I would like to propose that we vote on accepting the newly amended 2011-2012 Financial Report. (22:25:50) WernerDworak: Tomas, are all valig members voixed for vote now? (22:26:06) UlrichSchroeter: second and aye (22:26:11) TomasTrnka: everyone on #vote is eligible (22:26:39) WernerDworak: Fine. Then please start the voteing (22:26:46) VoteBot: TomasTrnka has started a vote on: Accept the newly amended 2011-2012 Financial Report (22:26:46) ***VoteBot please vote on: Accept the newly amended 2011-2012 Financial Report (22:27:12) ReinhardMutz: aye (22:27:32) TomasTrnka: ReinhardMutz: vote in #vote, please (22:27:43) rats_ heißt jetzt BenediktHeintel1 (22:28:15) ***VoteBot Voting on "Accept the newly amended 2011-2012 Financial Report" will end in 30 seconds! (22:28:24) MichaelTaenzer: ReinhardMutz: /join #vote (22:29:12) ***VoteBot has totaled the results for "Accept the newly amended 2011-2012 Financial Report" (22:29:14) ***VoteBot --- AYE: 17 (22:29:14) ***VoteBot --- NAYE: 0 (22:29:16) ***VoteBot --- ABSTAIN: 1 (22:29:34) GuillaumeRomagny: comment : rats_ we may have to remove a vote for rats_ a.k.a. BenediktHeintel in case of a double vote (22:29:40) MichaelTaenzer: Thank you guys (22:29:42) BenediktHeintel1: please do so (22:29:43) BenediktHeintel hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Ping timeout: 180 seconds). (22:29:43) TomasTrnka: Oops, correction: AYE: 16 (Benedikt Heintel) voted twice (22:30:19) TomasTrnka: Otherwise everything's fine (22:31:17) WernerDworak: Ok, we should work correctly, but with no vote against and one abstain, the result is more than clear. (22:32:12) WernerDworak: Thank yo Michael for your excellent work (22:32:41) MichaelTaenzer: By the way (22:32:55) BennyBaumann: Recounted by hand ignoring rats: 16 aye, 0 nope, 1 abstain -> ACK on TomasTrnka . (22:33:01) WernerDworak: Thank you everyone for attending. (22:33:02) MichaelTaenzer: I plan to send out invoices for unpaid membership payments soon (22:33:14) MichaelTaenzer: so don't be surprised (22:33:24) WytzevanderRaay: Michael: excellent! (22:33:37) MarcusMaengel: That sounds as a good idea (sending invoices) (22:33:41) GuillaumeRomagny: MichaelTaenzer : thanks :) (22:33:42) BenediktHeintel1: Good work, gibe it a go! (22:34:02) UlrichSchroeter: Great work, Consensus reached :) (22:34:04) rats_ heißt jetzt BenediktHeintel (22:34:13) GuillaumeRomagny: WernerDworak : so Chairman, we have the papers ready for the OFT ? (22:34:43) WernerDworak: Michael? (22:35:24) WernerDworak: And Peter and Piers, is something known about Kevin? (22:35:28) GuillaumeRomagny: WernerDworak : All I have read for the report look ok. (22:35:46) WernerDworak: Does he react? Can he tak the paper to OFT? (22:36:12) TomasTrnka: Kevin said that he will forward the A12 form when given one (22:36:43) BenediktHeintel1 hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Ping timeout: 180 seconds). (22:36:55) WernerDworak: Michael, did you forward your report to Kevin? (22:39:12) WernerDworak: Michael? (22:40:38) MichaelTaenzer: hi (22:40:48) MichaelTaenzer: no did not do that yet (22:40:56) MichaelTaenzer: I will send him the filled in form (22:41:14) GuillaumeRomagny: MichaelTaenzer : thanks. (22:41:25) WernerDworak: Fine. (22:41:52) WernerDworak: Are ther still remarks or questions? (22:42:07) UlrichSchroeter: sidenote: about the invoices ... for all who have to pay can contact me about a paypal shared transfer (22:42:54) WernerDworak: I see none (22:42:59) GuillaumeRomagny: To the Board, keep up the good work. (22:43:31) WernerDworak: So I close this meeting (22:43:37) WernerDworak: Good bye